FREE PELTIER!!!
he’s basically some indian dude who killed two fbi agents, and the source of bumper stickers that a bunch of burned out hippies with white guilt put on their hippie van.
GOOOOO PELTIER!
I’m voting for John McCain, because here in California, especially here in Marin, my democratic vote won’t count. =)
Plus I just like John McCain. I think he’s the best politician ever. =)
-S
It’s nice to see dems beings able to throw that electoral vote predictor site in the faces of would be naysayers after I’ve seen republicans do it through every stumble Bush has made. But be careful where you do it as the more net savvy freepers will counter with the ‘projected final map’ which still shows Bush with an inconceivable lead. That isn’t a criticism, so much as a prediction to what they’ll do.
Speaking of inconceivabke, I find it tough to swallow that people thought Bush did BETTER this time. He was just an ANGRY whiny confused drunk as opposed to a whiny confused drunk. And because he came off as ANGRY this time, people gave him more credit in the debates. Yes, I’m sure America wants angry people around nuclear weapons. I think if Bush gets any sort of rise from this, it’ll be a testament to how Americans were beat by their alcholic step dads and thought they deserved it.
I basically threw it at agtmadcat and thedcb because they’re from California, and from the averages of current polls, California isn’t 100% safe as a Democratic state.
No state is 100% safe as a any party state down there, it would seem. Unless you’re in a Diebold state. XP
Most of the ‘strong’ states have whoever with a 50-something percent lead.
California is one of the juicier plums in terms of electoral votes, though and if you guys go GOP in the election AND have Ahhh-nuld as your governor every pissed off Kerry supporter will forever call you ‘Florida West’. So I can see why you feel the need to impress upon people the importance of voting for somebody that’ll win.
If Bush get’s in on account of California though, I see Montreal and British Columbia getting a bit more crowded and the film industry in Canada and the world abroad getting a boost within 2 years, because it sure as hell wasn’t the Hollywood and San Fransisco crowds who voted for Bush.
A vote for John Kerry is a vote for John McCain as it’s a vote against Karl Rove and a vote against the current dominating incarnation of the Republican Party.
If Kerry gets in, Bush can spend that much more time at Crawford and will probably dissappear from Washington forever. If Kerry wins by enough it will send a message to the right telling it to step back a little bit. This will let the Republican party get back to the more acceptable right. When that happens you’ll probably be hearing more from McCain and he could wield a fair bit of power in the restructuring of the Republican party as alot of people think he’s a cool politician.
Dude wtf? Your vote does count. Don’t throw it away, EVER, because you never know what stupid shit might happen, and how much you’ll regret it. What if the popular vote vastly outweighs the electoral vote? It might change things! DON’T THROW IT AWAY.
didn’t the popular vote outway the electoral vote four years
ago in the presidental elections of GORE v BUSH…..
didn’t gore get the popular vote, but the electoral college chose
bush….
Yes, but remember what happened in Florida? Think about what would happen if the same thing happened in California, or in Florida again. About 500 votes in Florida determined the outcome of the previous election. If it ever came down to something as close as that, the state’s popular vote would count.
But I really don’t see the purpose in wasting a vote on someone else if you know they have no chance of winning anyway – especially if you don’t support them.
eek, woops, totally forgot florida… i hope they’re all good down there…
Um, it’s NOT ONLY FLORIDA. It could be California as well. It could be a NUMBER of other states. No matter WHERE you are, throwing away your vote is a STUPID idea.
even if you’re throwing away your vote, it is not your choice in the
president you’d like to get anyway, the electoral college still
makes the final desicision…. so, if we vote or not, it doesn’t
matter, we’re still getting a president whether we like it or not…
if our votes did matter, then we would have not 1 president, but
many governing every citizen or group of citizens who elected
him/her….
now the process for seating a new pope is a whole ‘notha story…
You should know that the popular vote is irrelevant. And that other guy made a good point, McCain should come out ahead when bush is defeated.
But anyway, you should know that I’m only being half-serious.
-S
(Rancidfish)
Rancidfish says: It’s that sort of attitude that has us stuck in this fucked-up two-party system.
Throw your vote wherever you damn well please. No candidate is trash.
Right, no candidate is trash, but John McCain isn’t a candidate. I’m all for voting for whomever, but how is voting for someone not involved and/or fictitious (in the case of Bart Simpson or Mickey Mouse) going to help the system regress into its democratic roots?
What’s most important is that people vote for those who share the same values. McCain’s an all-around awesome guy, sure, but just FYI, the people I’m talking to are rather liberal.
Really? I didn’t know you were voting for him.
What did you think?
🙁
🙁
ARE YOU NUTS?!
GO LEONARD PELTIER!!!! (who the fuck is Leonard Peltier?)
dude, it’s all about David Cobb.
random, but for some reason that icon makes me think of that just from backstreet boys with the facial hair, i dunno his name.
/end randomness
FREE PELTIER!!!
he’s basically some indian dude who killed two fbi agents, and the source of bumper stickers that a bunch of burned out hippies with white guilt put on their hippie van.
GOOOOO PELTIER!
FREE PELTIER!
Hes an american indian who is in prison.
I’m voting for John McCain, because here in California, especially here in Marin, my democratic vote won’t count. =)
Plus I just like John McCain. I think he’s the best politician ever. =)
-S
Don’t waste your vote.
It’s nice to see dems beings able to throw that electoral vote predictor site in the faces of would be naysayers after I’ve seen republicans do it through every stumble Bush has made. But be careful where you do it as the more net savvy freepers will counter with the ‘projected final map’ which still shows Bush with an inconceivable lead. That isn’t a criticism, so much as a prediction to what they’ll do.
Speaking of inconceivabke, I find it tough to swallow that people thought Bush did BETTER this time. He was just an ANGRY whiny confused drunk as opposed to a whiny confused drunk. And because he came off as ANGRY this time, people gave him more credit in the debates. Yes, I’m sure America wants angry people around nuclear weapons. I think if Bush gets any sort of rise from this, it’ll be a testament to how Americans were beat by their alcholic step dads and thought they deserved it.
I basically threw it at agtmadcat and thedcb because they’re from California, and from the averages of current polls, California isn’t 100% safe as a Democratic state.
No state is 100% safe as a any party state down there, it would seem. Unless you’re in a Diebold state. XP
Most of the ‘strong’ states have whoever with a 50-something percent lead.
California is one of the juicier plums in terms of electoral votes, though and if you guys go GOP in the election AND have Ahhh-nuld as your governor every pissed off Kerry supporter will forever call you ‘Florida West’. So I can see why you feel the need to impress upon people the importance of voting for somebody that’ll win.
If Bush get’s in on account of California though, I see Montreal and British Columbia getting a bit more crowded and the film industry in Canada and the world abroad getting a boost within 2 years, because it sure as hell wasn’t the Hollywood and San Fransisco crowds who voted for Bush.
IT WAS THOSE DAMN FRESNONIANS!!!
Actually, SoCal’s pretty Republican, innit?
…wtf is that supposed to be?
A vote for John Kerry is a vote for John McCain as it’s a vote against Karl Rove and a vote against the current dominating incarnation of the Republican Party.
If Kerry gets in, Bush can spend that much more time at Crawford and will probably dissappear from Washington forever. If Kerry wins by enough it will send a message to the right telling it to step back a little bit. This will let the Republican party get back to the more acceptable right. When that happens you’ll probably be hearing more from McCain and he could wield a fair bit of power in the restructuring of the Republican party as alot of people think he’s a cool politician.
Quite right. In 4 years, if he runs, I’ll register as a republican to vote for him in the primaries, then switch back. =)
Dude wtf? Your vote does count. Don’t throw it away, EVER, because you never know what stupid shit might happen, and how much you’ll regret it. What if the popular vote vastly outweighs the electoral vote? It might change things! DON’T THROW IT AWAY.
didn’t the popular vote outway the electoral vote four years
ago in the presidental elections of GORE v BUSH…..
didn’t gore get the popular vote, but the electoral college chose
bush….
Yes, but remember what happened in Florida? Think about what would happen if the same thing happened in California, or in Florida again. About 500 votes in Florida determined the outcome of the previous election. If it ever came down to something as close as that, the state’s popular vote would count.
But I really don’t see the purpose in wasting a vote on someone else if you know they have no chance of winning anyway – especially if you don’t support them.
eek, woops, totally forgot florida… i hope they’re all good down there…
Um, it’s NOT ONLY FLORIDA. It could be California as well. It could be a NUMBER of other states. No matter WHERE you are, throwing away your vote is a STUPID idea.
even if you’re throwing away your vote, it is not your choice in the
president you’d like to get anyway, the electoral college still
makes the final desicision…. so, if we vote or not, it doesn’t
matter, we’re still getting a president whether we like it or not…
if our votes did matter, then we would have not 1 president, but
many governing every citizen or group of citizens who elected
him/her….
now the process for seating a new pope is a whole ‘notha story…
You should know that the popular vote is irrelevant. And that other guy made a good point, McCain should come out ahead when bush is defeated.
But anyway, you should know that I’m only being half-serious.
-S
I dunno, it didn’t last year, sure, but you never know – if you get enough, if you create enough of an outroar…
McCain RULES
Don’t waste your vote.
(Rancidfish)
Rancidfish says: It’s that sort of attitude that has us stuck in this fucked-up two-party system.
Throw your vote wherever you damn well please. No candidate is trash.
Right, no candidate is trash, but John McCain isn’t a candidate. I’m all for voting for whomever, but how is voting for someone not involved and/or fictitious (in the case of Bart Simpson or Mickey Mouse) going to help the system regress into its democratic roots?
What’s most important is that people vote for those who share the same values. McCain’s an all-around awesome guy, sure, but just FYI, the people I’m talking to are rather liberal.
Isn’t it illegal to take photos of voting documents?
I’m not too sure why I think that, it just seems a likely law that some countries would have.
Yeah, it seems likely, doesn’t it.
Then again, I could say that it’s just a picture of a sample ballot – looks identical. Whatev!
breakin’ the law, breakin the lawwwwww!
YEAH JEFFREY!!!! WOOOOOO!!!!!!
I prolly should fill mine out too.